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Re: Taking suggestions on finding a job [Re: Lakelife] #15896
02/15/12 05:09 AM
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So.....any type of lead I had for a job fell through. Talk about frustrating! Every Dr.'s office in my area either does EMR's or outsources to India. I am now taking a test with inscribe. Its tough but I am so determined to ACE it and be able to get a job, because I feel like they are my only option. I graduated with a 93%. I thought it was going to be a lot easier then this!

Re: Taking suggestions on finding a job [Re: daniger] #15937
02/16/12 03:45 AM
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They are looking for about an 98% correct rate. When I talked to the school about the different services out there, they told me that almost all of them require this rate. The best thing to do is to be self-employed....go out on your own.

BTW...@ .07 cents a line and a page is 46 lines that is only $3.22 per page.

Where's the money???????????????????


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Re: Taking suggestions on finding a job [Re: judymae] #15943
02/16/12 04:40 AM
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Good question, judymae.

The traditional definition of a "line," which most services use, is 65 characters--some places pay for spaces and some do not.

Back in the early 1990s it was 12 cents per gross line--that means if only the date was on a line, you got 12 cents. It eventually became 12 cents for every 65 characters transcribed. Then the hospitals started looking for ways to cut money and transcription is always ripe for the picking in their minds, because MT does not make money outright and is considered a necessary evil, and so began outsourcing and cutting pay.

I made 7 cents a 65-character line in 1996. Most national services want you to transcribe an average minimum of 150 lines (per the 65-character definition) an hour, so in 8 hours that would be 1200 lines @ 7 cents which would be $84 a day which is $10.50 an hour. Some services might pay 8 and if you are really, really lucky you could get 9 or 10. The national services don't pay those rates, though. The average is 7-8 cents a line, regardless of experience, the premise being that as you acquire more knowledge (i.e., don't have to stop and look everything up)you will become faster.

There are people who make more than $84 a day, but it's not as common as one would lead you to believe, and certainly a newbie is going to be hard-pressed to average 150 lines an hour.

That is why I got out of MT--I remember the "gravy days," and when I think about how MT rates have gone down it's just not worth it for me any longer. Think of how many things have gone up in price and yet they are paying 1996 wages????

Medical coding is much more lucrative, but there are not a lot of at-home jobs in that field as of yet. However, technology is catching up to where the at-home numbers will eventually increase.

As with medical transcription, you have to do your homework when making the decision of picking a coding school. There are some very good on-line coding programs. Part of the reason the pay is higher for coders is because having a credential is mandatory, whereas in transcription it is not. You cannot get a job doing medical coding without a credential from a recognized credentialing organization.

Some food for thought . . . not trying to be down on MT, just my thoughts from having been in the business since 1992.



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Re: Taking suggestions on finding a job [Re: kkb] #15945
02/16/12 06:40 AM
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Thanks, kkb.
Are you going into coding? I have finished the MT course and wished I'd check into the school more. At-Home Professions is not credited. They failed to tell you that, but they are credited in my state. But most companies are not located in my state.

The only way the school will help me get a job is to be self-employed.

I have even have applied for general typing jobs and still no luck.

I have often wondered if I made the wrong choice; transcription over coding.

I still haven't paid all the cost yet for the course and if I take a coding course that is more money that I just don't have right now. What should I do? Keep trying, praying, and maybe I will be lucky or give up and go into coding?

All the places I have found on the internet are wanting 3-5 years experience or a recent grad from a credited school. I am out money and no job b/c I don't have either.

I wish I could tell everyone who is thinking about taking At-Home Profession's course not to. It is the same course as Allied and a few other schools, but they still will not hire from AHP.

Thank you for your input. I'm venting right now. Now I know how caw feels. I have been searching for a job since Nov. It has to get better. Can't get any worse. Tomorrow I'm trying small clinics in my area. More money to spend on mail....lol.


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Re: Taking suggestions on finding a job [Re: judymae] #15951
02/16/12 04:25 PM
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kkb and Judymae,
I am so in agreement with you, Judymae. I truly wished I had done more research into schools B4 I started with AHP. I am from MN and so they are not accredited here. Oh yea, lucky me. Like Judymae said, they forgot to mention that at their seminar. I went for curiosity and should have stopped there. I have paid my full tuition, did so early when they offered a 20% off if paid in full. I was able to do so, so I saved a good amount. But I am no further ahead in getting a job than Judymae.

I too am venting and I do not know where to go from here. Do not want to spend more money to learn to be a medical coder. I guess "hind-site" is always 20/20 and we learn from out mistakes.

I am retired & do not HAVE to work, but I wanted something part time, that I could do from home and while attending the seminar, this seemed like the clear ticket. Must have had my blinders on at that point in time. Like I said, I do not have to work, have a part time substitute job driving a van for our school district and may just ask for a regular route and say the "heck" with this for now. But I spent lots of dollars on this course & would love to make some of it back.

I would not recommend spending money on a career as a MT at this point in time. According to kkb's comments, it has been going down hill for several years now & does not look like it is going to get better. If one REALLY wants to be an MT, make sure you research your schools B4 you spend any money on tuition. Just my thoughts !!!!!!!!!! sick


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Re: Taking suggestions on finding a job [Re: Lakelife] #15960
02/16/12 06:50 PM
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Sure hate to read this thread. Just received 4th course. Taking the course because I enjoy the work and will have to be home to take care of my wife sometime down the line. Did not go with coding because it would mean being away from home. I wonder how much I can take from this course to coding if that becomes necessary. Maybe more jobs will open up when the new health care kicks in.....? Hoping so anyway. Good luck on the test Lakelife and good luck at the clinics judymae. Thanks to both of you for all the help that I have gotten from you all!!

Re: Taking suggestions on finding a job [Re: rusty54] #15966
02/16/12 09:31 PM
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Rusty54,

You are entirely welcome. We are here to help each other, I have gotten a lot of help on this site & will gladly try & help anyone, just will not proofread nor review entire reports. We all have to make some mistakes, that is how we learn. Good luck with your lessons, remember we are here. wink

Do not want to discourage you, I guess I just get frustrated, since I spent so much time & money on this course & then read these posts, as you did. I have faith, I AM gonna find a job !! smile Guess I just needed to blow off a little steam. Now I am back down to earth & cooled off some.

Take care,


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Re: Taking suggestions on finding a job [Re: judymae] #15969
02/17/12 01:07 AM
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No, I'm not doing coding. I am actually getting another degree (got my first one 30 years ago) at a local community college.

I thought about it, though, and 2 of my displaced coworkers took a course that was not good. They knew more than the teacher because they had been doing MT for over 25 years and they were more familiar with the diseases and conditions than the instructor was. The instructor was not credentialed and had not passed the test that they were required to take at the end of the course! They had to hire a tutor in order to pass the credentialing test. They did pass but after taking the course they decided that coding was not for them. They did get the apprentice credential, though.

MT is a good skill set for coding because you have to know the terminology so that is a big help there.

If you want to be a coder, there are 2 organizations that certify coders--AHIMA.org and AAPC.com. At least they are the 2 biggest and the only ones I've heard of. Both offer on-line and in-class programs, I believe. There does seem to be some difference in their credentials. Some hospitals want AHIMA-certified coders and others want APC coders. I am not familiar with the nuances of why, but this forum thread might help:

http://www.aapc.com/memberarea/forums/showthread.php?t=11284

Both organizations offer multiple coding credentials. For example, you can be credentialed to code for a physician's office only or for a hospital--i.e., they have specialized credentials depending on what you are interested in.

I would definitely suggest doing further research for anyone who decides to go that route--check with employers in your area and see what the consensus is as far as what credentials are required and/or in demand.

This is a good time to get into coding because next year there are going to be BIG changes in coding--I believe ALL coders will have to be recertified to code in ICD-10, which, from what I have read, is very different from ICD-9 which is what they have used for several years.

Forgive me if some of my information isn't totally correct. Not trying to sell coding (and I have nothing to do with any coding organization or school, nor am I a coder), but it might be a viable alternative to MT and I don't want people who are interested in coding to select a school where they are not taught what is necessary to get the credential.

As I said in the previous post, there aren't a lot of at-home opportunities for coding yet, but with electronic medical records becoming more the norm, technology will likely make this more common. I do know of one hospital that has all of their coders at home.

I do hope all of you who have been disappointed with your job prospects have better luck--don't forget the economy isn't helping in your search, either!


kkb (Karyn), who considers herself a newbie and still remembers what it was like to be a newbie!
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